ronald reagan, hell, won in massachusetts. it seems to me, larry, chris christie is a republican who understands that you've got to parachute behind enemy lines and take back some of the blue states or the gop just ain't going to win another presidential election. your take. >> of course that's correct. i mean, they have to do something to win blue states. maybe they start with the purple ones. frankly, larry, like virginia, which is, after all, the closest to the national average presidentially now for both 2008 and 2012. hey, if you can't win virginia back, you're not going to win the white house back. so, the republicans really do have to follow the christie model, even if they don't agree with all of christie's positions. they have to find people who talk blue. you know, there are other people out there, like scott walker, governor of wisconsin, he's won in a blue state and he talks blue. >> john kasich knows how to talk blue. there's a whole bunch of them. in this respect, i think christie is a path-breaker. karen finney,